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Chart Your Career


Aug 11, 2021

Heidi and Ellen talk to Keriann and Michelle. Keriann started working for herself during the pandemic.  While she loves the freedom and creativity of self-employment, she worries about money and her financial future. She wonders how long it will take for this new venture to truly blossom. Michelle finds herself in a constant cyclical work state. The moment she starts to master what she is doing, she has a deep desire to shift gears into something else. She wants advice on how to soften into the present moment. Ellen and Heidi also talk about two shows on HBO Max: ’Schmigadoon’ and the new documentary ‘Obama: In Pursuit of a New Perfect Union’. They also talk about old episodes from the wonderful podcast ‘Dear Sugar’ with Cheryl Strayed and Steve Almond.